Scifi and cut scenes

Knight Racer · Post by **Knight Racer** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 6:43 am

I know Knight Rider had great cut scenes from nbc and was later cut to make room for more comercial sponcers.My question is did scifi cut even more out?I was looking at nobody does it better and I noticed I think one cut scene where Bonnie was playing videogames and I remember the scene where Kitt convinces bonnie to play more saying it strengthens hand eye cordination in kids.I never saw it from the scifi version.

Post by **neps** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 8:18 am

I'm pretty sure it was determined that they are just using the standard syndicut episodes. Which episode in particular are you talking about?

Supersonic Lorry · Post by **Supersonic Lorry** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 11:33 am

I understand your frustrations Knight Racer. We had a similar thing in the UK with our Channel 5. They showed KR episodes in 1999-all episodes were cut to 25 minutes. Actually, it wasn't Channel 5 that cut them. They just brought the edited episodes.

It isn't good enough and it sets a precedent. Whatever will we see next? 24 sold to a channel, cut and broadcast under the title '12'?

Supersonic Lorry

Joe Huth · Post by **Joe Huth** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 12:25 pm

Yes, you are correct - Sci-Fi is cutting out even more than usual...scenes shown on WGN and USA are missing in the Sci-Fi version...One specific example...the other day, when "Return to Cadiz" was aired, they cut out part of the driving montage of the song "Every Breath You Take"....it's quite annoying!

Joe

Knight Racer · Post by **Knight Racer** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 5:35 pm

neps wrote:I'm pretty sure it was determined that they are just using the standard syndicut episodes. Which episode in particular are you talking about?

The episode I was anylizing with normal eyes not the usual super magnifacation i usualy use,(hard day at work,couldn't do it the normal way)was Nobody does it better.I don't know why they cut out the scene where Bonnie is playing the video game on kitts monitors and then kitt tries to pursuade her to play more by saying it increases hand eye cordinaion or something.

I'm presently on a Knight Rider mission:Record every episode of kr to cd with great resolution and then make clips of the cut scenes from the 40 episodes i will recieve ,already got 24,and kr trailors for season 1.I will make a total of 91 cd's plus the kr2000 movie.Since I have a new job I can only do 1 or 2 a day

(I wish I can take out like 10 in one day.The reason for this is because I've had the experience of seeing knight rider in terrible conditions such as static the tape jumping or worrse resolution problems.I also want to get the cut scenes from nbc but now it seems like I may have a problme on my hands.I thought scifi will be airing them like usa or wgn,I didn't know they are cutting more scenes out.

spyhunter · Post by **spyhunter** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 3:43 pm

Joe Huth wrote:Yes, you are correct - Sci-Fi is cutting out even more than usual...scenes shown on WGN and USA are missing in the Sci-Fi version...One specific example...the other day, when "Return to Cadiz" was aired, they cut out part of the driving montage of the song "Every Breath You Take"....it's quite annoying!

Joe

I knew it! I knew it!

I suspected Sci-Fi was cutting out even more scenes back when SPM was being chopped up left and right! But SOMEBODY had to argue with me about it!

HA!

SH

knightimmortal · Post by **knightimmortal** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 4:47 pm

Hey, first if you are going to slam somebody, use their name.

Second, you might want to remember that SOMEBODY is still here, and reading.

Third, ok, so they are cutting little pieces, ones that are in fact missing in other runs, other than Sci-Fi, which is what I told you. You all made it sound like Sci-Fi was solely doing this giant hack job, and not to mention, I still run the Sci-Fi recordings alongside the WGN and USA versions, and the parts that are cut have gone missing in other areas.

Here is a hint for you who have your juvenile tendencies running wild and your HA's! ready at hand, I don't argue just for the sake of arguing, and you might want to get it through your heads that it takes two to argue. But of course, anything I say HAS to be incorrect, right? Especially when it doesn't agree with SOMEBODY's views.

KI

spyhunter · Post by **spyhunter** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 5:44 pm

You sound just like the Sheriff in GOOD DAY AT WHITE ROCK, and he wasn't right either...

So, now you are saying that Joe is wrong about Sci-Fi cutting the episodes??

SH

Darendor · Post by **Darendor** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 6:19 pm

knightimmortal wrote:Hey, first if you are going to slam somebody, use their name.

Second, you might want to remember that SOMEBODY is still here, and reading.

Third, ok, so they are cutting little pieces, ones that are in fact missing in other runs, other than Sci-Fi, which is what I told you. You all made it sound like Sci-Fi was solely doing this giant hack job, and not to mention, I still run the Sci-Fi recordings alongside the WGN and USA versions, and the parts that are cut have gone missing in other areas.

Here is a hint for you who have your juvenile tendencies running wild and your HA's! ready at hand, I don't argue just for the sake of arguing, and you might want to get it through your heads that it takes two to argue. But of course, anything I say HAS to be incorrect, right? Especially when it doesn't agree with SOMEBODY's views.

KI

I don't remember seeing anyone slamming you here...are you just trying to cause another spat or something?

knightimmortal · Post by **knightimmortal** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 7:10 pm

Darendor: Butt out. You couldn't take the time to be here during the last time this topic came up, so you have no clue what you are talking about, and everybody would appreciate it if you would just stay out. I know who he was talking about, and obviously if you know how to read, above, so does he.

Spyhunter: How about you go put your childish attitude where somebody is going to deal with it. Let me guess, you still say neener-neener-neener? If you would get off your high horse, and read my damn message rather than acting like you are five, you would see that one, I am not saying that Joe is wrong, second, what the hell makes Joe so absolute? Because he wrote a book? I KNOW Joe, and I know that isn't how he would like to be seen, oh wait, are you going to tell me that I am wrong on that too? I SAID that yeah, there are cuts from Sci-Fi. I also said that they weren't necessarily Sci-Fi's cuts, but from other syndication stops, as I always had. Or do you just conveniently remember what you want to?

Second, before you start comparing me to the Sheriff in Good Day at White Rock, get a clue, or grow up first. I am nothing like that, and if I am not allowed to present my own views because once again, they don't agree with your narrowed version of things, then I guess you need to tell Neil that you are the new sheriff of the board. It's amazing how some people are allowed to state something, while others can't.

And it's not that I am angry about being proven wrong, (though I still totally haven't), I am angry about the less than adult way you got to approach it, Spyhunter. I didn't like it when I was in third grade, and I sure as heck don't like it now. All you had to do was be grown up enough to just say something like "I guess KI was wrong about it" or something along those lines, not what you did.

KI

spyhunter · Post by **spyhunter** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 2:53 am

Ok, you seem to be saying that Sci-Fi is not the one making ALL of these additional hacks to our precious episodes, so then WHO is?

Why is it so impossible for Sci-Fi to make the cuts, do you know somebody at Sci-Fi??

SH

P.S. Original DEBATE for anyone who is lost...

knightimmortal · Post by **knightimmortal** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 3:11 am

I am assuming that you do know how to read, since you are so apt to choke up the old argument. How about you try reading what is put down, and not what you want to read? That might save a whole peeload of board space.

Now read very carefully, if you know how....

You all made it sound like Sci-Fi was solely doing this giant hack job, and not to mention, I still run the Sci-Fi recordings alongside the WGN and USA versions, and the parts that are cut have gone missing in other areas.

I SAID that yeah, there are cuts from Sci-Fi. I also said that they weren't necessarily Sci-Fi's cuts, but from other syndication stops, as I always had. Or do you just conveniently remember what you want to?

These are just the ones that I have had to say today while you were off in poo flinging mode. Do you really think that Sci-Fi was the first to re-run KR in syndication? Because you really are making it look that way. I am just saying that for once, that Sci-Fi isn't COMPLETELY to blame, that these hacks had come out before, INCLUDING some SPM scenes. Is that so hard for you to accept, or are you just out to whine about Sci-Fi, so it makes you feel better? Previously, some of these scenes were taken out by WGN in some airings, USA in some airings, and WWOR in some airings.

Did you read this? Can you understand what I am saying? I know I am speaking English, and haven't slipped into Spanish lately. Or are you just going to once again read what you WANT to read? What exactly do you want out of this? Me to lie and say that I was wrong? Sorry. Not going to happen. You want attention? Bad way to get it.

KI

spyhunter · Post by **spyhunter** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 3:27 am

Well if there wasn't so much lecture and remedial babbling [peeload of board space] going on amongst the answers maybe I would've gotten it the first time!?! DUH!?!

SH

knightimmortal · Post by **knightimmortal** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 3:53 am

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know that I was limited to simple special person speech, I shall endeavor to remember this with you in the future. Oh wait, nothing I say has credit with you, because *gasp* It's educated.

By the way, dear, innocent person, to address your rude approach in the other thread, Paul, from the Knight Rider Archive is from the United Kingdom. (you know, that country that is across the ocean and everything?) His knowledge of AMERICAN broadcasting is limited to what he is told, and sent. Maybe you should know what you are asking for before you ask for it.

Oh wait, I am straying away from your little words again. (The ruder you get with me, I am going to give it right back to you until you wake up and get a clue)

Just out of curiousity, do you have the tapes? Do you have two runs of each airing? The ones from WGN, USA, and WWOR? I am only missing the FOX syndication run.

I love how it becomes a LECTURE when I provide proof, and information that I know. You're getting rather creative. Especially when it is looking more and more like you are wrong for your behavior towards me.

KI

knightvision · Post by **knightvision** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 4:22 am

spyhunter wrote:You sound just like the Sheriff in GOOD DAY AT WHITE ROCK, and he wasn't right either...

So, now you are saying that Joe is wrong about Sci-Fi cutting the episodes??

SH

If you are going to quote episodes make sure to be correct when doing so. The sheriff wasn't wrong, just his approach. He was right that it takes two to tango and if one is not instigating, neither can the other. Maybe you should follow that advice. Not everything you say is always correct.

Joe is sorta right about the cuts. But to keep hounding Laura is not. Spyhunter is the one being the one out of line here, not Knightimmortal.

So the next time spyhunter opens his mouth, he should think twice about it if he can not back it up. So what spyhunter, you going to tell me I don't know what I am talking about?

No threats here, but this is the 8th post were KI gets attacked. So roundabout is fair play. If your so right spyhunter, prove it.

Richie

Knight Racer · Post by **Knight Racer** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 10:37 am

I'm a little confused.I only thought Knight Rider was edited once after nbc airing.Exactly how many times was it edited and how much time is missing from each episode?When I record the episodes I get like 45 min about that much.Isn't that how much should be left over after comercials are taken out?

knightimmortal · Post by **knightimmortal** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 1:00 pm

If I may answer without persecution,

Each station that receives and airs KR receives the original uncut version, then they edit it to fit with their commercial times. For example: One airing on WWOR had "Let It Be Me" (the song) in "Let It Be Me" (the episode) on the very next airing, on the same station, it was missing.

All our 'syndicuts' come from allowance for commercial time. (compared to the UK, where it is edited for violent content in some cases) It all depends what scenes they deem 'not important' or where the commercials happen to land. Some TV stations try to stuff more commercial breaks in.

Find a Columbia House version, and clock those, and you should see how long the episodes really are. (since they are uncut and commercial free)

KI

Knight Racer · Post by **Knight Racer** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 1:41 pm

Looks like my little kr mission to save the clearaty as well as cut scenes may be in veign.Ah well at least I can get the best resolution out of it.I've got Columbia house videos,Scifi and wgn.As well as a friend who has let me borrow his tapes from his satelite recordings.I just wish they can get it the way it used to be on NBC.Theres should be enough room to squeeze in 15 min of comercials on a 45 min episode.

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