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Molecularly bonded shells that repel bullets do not exist. Nanotechnology does. If you want "reality" then you actually are getting it (albeit with a scifi bent) in KR08.Knight-Armen wrote:5. I want reality! I want molecular bonded shell! I don't want that nanotechnology crap! (It's amazing how you can turn something that was so realistic to something horrible that looks like a computer game!)
From a storyline sense, if the formula wasn't lost, then it could have perhaps been deemed too dangerous, especially with all the bullets bouncing off KITT it's a miracle that only one person was killed due to firing at point blank range, another guy injured in a cartoony fashion and a helicopter damaged. All of which of course happened in the pilot though they still were bouncing off the car.goldbug wrote:Molecularly bonded shells that repel bullets do not exist. Nanotechnology does. If you want "reality" then you actually are getting it (albeit with a scifi bent) in KR08.Knight-Armen wrote:5. I want reality! I want molecular bonded shell! I don't want that nanotechnology crap! (It's amazing how you can turn something that was so realistic to something horrible that looks like a computer game!)
So you WANT KITT to have the MBS so bullets can bounce off of him and kill people around him?Knight-Armen wrote:Really? Was a guy killed by one of the bullets that bounced of Kitt?
Some reality for you there, goldbug!
I think what we're harping on is your earlier point about demanding "realism". Having an MBS with bullets bouncing off of it all the time would no doubt cause injuries to those nearby, and thus perhaps not the most "heroic" thing for KITT. In the 80's we dismissed it easily and just ooh'd and aah'd at the "spark" visual fx as bullets "hit" KITT, but if you are demanding realism, it makes more sense to have a shell that not only protects the car, but also absorbs the impact of the bullet as the February movie showed KITT does. What I am curious about is just what KITT has now because they sort of glossed over it in the premiere ep.Knight-Armen wrote:Are you talking to me? Cause if you do you're right. Although, I don't recall a bullet bouncing of Kitt's chassis. If that is the case and someone got hit during that incident it's still just fiction. It didn't happen for real.
Oh, now I get it! You must have misunderstood me. What I was trying to imply was that the old Kitt appeared more realistic that of the new Kitt in terms of repelling the bullets. I mean, obviously it's safer to use something that absorbs the impact than having a bullet bouncing of in different directions when it hits the surface. In real life however (or with the technology avaliable today) we haven't yet figured out a surface that can absorb an impact as shown in the new series (as far as I know). It's all done with computers which makes it look artificial and not real, that's my point.I think what we're harping on is your earlier point about demanding "realism". Having an MBS with bullets bouncing off of it all the time would no doubt cause injuries to those nearby, and thus perhaps not the most "heroic" thing for KITT. In the 80's we dismissed it easily and just ooh'd and aah'd at the "spark" visual fx as bullets "hit" KITT, but if you are demanding realism, it makes more sense to have a shell that not only protects the car, but also absorbs the impact of the bullet as the February movie showed KITT does. What I am curious about is just what KITT has now because they sort of glossed over it in the premiere ep.
"One man can make a difference" has many meanings. We live in a different world now, and threats like terrorists and secret agents etc. have been a staple of action TV for years (before and after the original KR). They're not ignoring that idea at all since Mike and KITT are still the main characters and they are out there trying to make a difference.ilana wrote:1. The show complitely ignored the idea of the original. If you remember, it was about one man making difference, helping common people, when nobody could help! In the new series, in fact, Mike Tracer works for FBI. It's absloutely not the same.
How?ilana wrote:2. The script missed logic at all.
How?[/quote]ilana wrote:2. The script missed logic at all.
It was a big building, with many floors and there was an event going on with several important figures and guards. These guys were obviously trying to keep their presence low key, and clearly they'd be outnumbered by the building security. Of COURSE they're going to do this covertly and try to get Mike through Sarah and not raid the entire building searching for him.ilana wrote:1) The bad guy asks Sarah where is Mike and wants to torture her, although he simply MUST know, that Mike is in the building. Everybody knows and try to catch him. And then he could use her as a hostage. Well, Ok, let's suppose that he is not very clever.
The country is actually spelled "IRAQ". You seem to think he only now realizes there are holes in his memory, when in fact he admits during his 1:1 conversation with Sarah that he has known for a while he doesn't remember things and that he doesn't necesarily WANT to remember. This is not uncommon among those who have undergone battlefield trauma.ilana wrote:2) Mike spent 3 years in Irak, then came back and lived in US for some time, then started to work with Sarah. And only then he understood that he did not remember what happend to him in Irak. How is it possible? I want to say that a man cannot have lapses of memory and did not notice it. Of cause, if he does not live on a desert iland. So he is not Ok, too.
Probably, but you'd have a hard time convincing anyone that "Mike Traceur" is still alive when the evening news says he's dead complete with a picture of him and a body.ilana wrote:3) And the most stupid person is Carrie, when she tried to get rid of Mike's past. After her very "clever" idea the bad guys can find Mike as easy as they used to. In the original series Michael had plastic surgery and new fingrer prints. And, the most important, there were only very few trustworthy people, who knew about his past. In the new series there are hundreds people in the organisation and FBI, who knows that Mike is still alive. And one of them probably is a betrayor.
Except that Mike doesn't know that's what they did, and frankly, the fate of "The Package" is ambiguous. They said "witness protection", so for all we know he's either locked up in a lab or living in Arizona somewhere. As far as Mike knew, he was keeping the list of undercover agents etc. from being exposed (which would SAVE lives).ilana wrote:As for my first note, I still think that FBI is not the right organisation to work for a person with the name Michael Knight. There are so many policy in this subject, that I don't really want to discuss it. I would say, it's not just important that you make a difference. It's also important WHAT you do and HOW you do it. Can you imagine Michael Knight (from the original) to convey a guy to be killed as a redundant witness????
Hang on! Do you really think Wilton knew that Garth was a criminal before he died? Garth appeared in the second season! Besides, why shouldn't Wilton give Michael, Garth's face? That's his son for crying out loud!And let's not forget that Wilton gave Michael Long the face of his not-so-nice, criminal son. Is it any more logical to give your "Knight" the face of a criminal?
Garthe was in prison serving THREE consecutive life sentences at the time Wilton gave Michael Long his face, so yes, I'd say so. The fact that Wilton knew the face to give Michael (and that it SO closely resembled his son) shows that he knew his son was alive and how he looked.Knight-Armen wrote:Hang on! Do you really think Wilton knew that Garth was a criminal before he died? Garth appeared in the second season! Besides, why shouldn't Wilton give Michael, Garth's face? That's his son for crying out loud!
Maybe in a metaphoric way, but not in a logical way. If you were suddenly given the chance to be a crimefighter, would you take on the face of a guy who is so dangerous he was put in jail for several life sentences?Knight-Armen wrote:Also, if Wilton knew that Garth was a criminal then what a great idea to make an exact copy of his own son and have him fight for law and justice...
I'd like to know where you got this information, please.Garthe was in prison serving THREE consecutive life sentences at the time Wilton gave Michael Long his face
It's obvious that Wilton knew that Garth was alive. What I'm saying is that he was unaware of Garth's whereabouts and the fact that he was a criminal. All we get to know is that Garth is furious with the fact that Wilton gave Michael everything and not himself.The fact that Wilton knew the face to give Michael (and that it SO closely resembled his son) shows that he knew his son was alive and how he looked.
I guess this has to do with your own personal opinion. Maybe Wilton wanted him to look like Garth since he always wanted his son to be a crimefighter...Maybe in a metaphoric way, but not in a logical way. If you were suddenly given the chance to be a crimefighter, would you take on the face of a guy who is so dangerous he was put in jail for several life sentences?
Also if you remember the fact Devon stated that they thought he was in Africa serving time and could never come back. So they presumed he would stay there forever or even die there.Knight-Armen wrote:I'd like to know where you got this information, please.Garthe was in prison serving THREE consecutive life sentences at the time Wilton gave Michael Long his face
It's obvious that Wilton knew that Garth was alive. What I'm saying is that he was unaware of Garth's whereabouts and the fact that he was a criminal. All we get to know is that Garth is furious with the fact that Wilton gave Michael everything and not himself.The fact that Wilton knew the face to give Michael (and that it SO closely resembled his son) shows that he knew his son was alive and how he looked.
Also, I'm sure Wilton knows how his son looks like.
I guess this has to do with your own personal opinion. Maybe Wilton wanted him to look like Garth since he always wanted his son to be a crimefighter...Maybe in a metaphoric way, but not in a logical way. If you were suddenly given the chance to be a crimefighter, would you take on the face of a guy who is so dangerous he was put in jail for several life sentences?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garthe_KnightKnight-Armen wrote:I'd like to know where you got this information, please.
I can see that POV. It is ambiguous whether or not Wilton knew of his son's criminal activities since I don't recall it ever being explicitly said. However, I believe a man with Wilton's resources surely would have known not only the whereabouts but also the activities of his own son.Knight-Armen wrote:I guess this has to do with your own personal opinion. Maybe Wilton wanted him to look like Garth since he always wanted his son to be a crimefighter...
