It wasn't perfect but I'm not sure I could be more pleased.

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It wasn't perfect but I'm not sure I could be more pleased.

Post by Romulus9 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:41 pm

As Knight Rider fans, our world isn't perfect. If everything was done in the way we'd all hoped, The Scent of Roses would have been the series finale at the end of season four and the mess that was Knight Rider 2000 would have been substantially better when produced in 1991.

So here we are. A day removed from finally seeing Knight Rider back on the airwaves. Admittedly, I've been nervous about it since the announcement, repeatedly saying, "They better not screw it all up." And?

They didn't! And here's why....

First of all, it's as if KR2000 never happened. Much like the job was handled with Superman Returns (in regards to placing it after Superman II in the universe), the story continues post-1985. The writing was wonderful. My gripe with KR2000 was that they simply got too cute, buying into all of the year 2000 nonsense and going completely Orwellian in the process... and just happening to put Knight Rider in the middle. With this installment, they've managed to do something that the original did: placing the storyline in our current time but imagining the possibilities within a still realistic construct. It's just like the classic. There's no Sci-Fi Channel leap into the future, no total strangers thrust into KITT's driver seat (c'mon... it's Michael's DNA!), and no desire to throw my remote control through the television. In order to get the full effect, watch the new movie and KR2000 back to back, pausing only to see how stupid it seems to see the year 2000 at the start of the latter. The end of KR2000 seemed like the end of the alternate universe of Knight Rider but, thankfully, FLAG is reborn. They did it right.

Secondly, despite a couple of continuity issues that were apparent to the dedicated/obsessive such as myself (for instance, those of us who remember that, according to Junkyard Dog in season 3, Charles Graiman was not one of the three men who worked on the original KITT), those issues were seemingly explained away. Okay. I can live with that. But why does Michael have a 23-year old son? 2008-23=1985. Wow... so Michael knocked Jenny up BEFORE he got shot and married Stevie. Michael was a player. Surpised we haven't seen him on an episode of Maury. :lol:

But I'm okay with it. Most would never notice.

The car is great. I wondered how it would seem but it was spectacular. As stated before, they didn't get too cute. They did it the way it was done in the original. Current timeframe, current and familiar but advanced technology, an advanced state of reality. KR2000 had stuff going on that was not only patently unrealistic (at any point), it was just outright stupid. That isn't the case here.

Thirdly, I know I wasn't the only one who was screaming "Say it!" at the television in the last ten minutes. I knew it was coming. We all did. Michael had to look at Mike and tell him about Wilton, passing on the ideology that one man can make a difference. It was in that moment that what we were all hoping for since the project was announced finally occurred. The gap was bridged. Knight Rider is back!

Will we see a new series? Who knows. But after last night, I certainly hope so. Let's all forget the 1991 disaster. Let's let Knight Rider live on, passed on to a new generation but still enjoyed by the old one. Let's let NBC tell us what Michael Knight has been up to since April of 1986. Let's find out what happened to Bonnie, April, RC, and FLAG. Let's see how Devon's final years were, sans Thomas Watts and those idiotic sonic tazer things. Most importantly, let's take Knight Rider to new heights and see the ultimate optimistic ideological storyline continue on for years to come, in a world where we desperately need something to believe in.

A final question or two... did Graiman design another Mustang with a primary function of self-preservation? Does Michael have another son somewhere by another woman that looks just like Mike but happens to be a little twisted?

Sorry. I had to.

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Re: It wasn't perfect but I'm not sure I could be more pleased.

Post by cloudkitt » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:49 pm

I wholeheartedly agree. I appreciate your thought-out review. Most of the people that joined simply to respond to the pilot not only trash-talked, but provided no basis for their opinions.

I couldn't have said it better. It wasn't perfect, there were minor things that only diehard fans such as ourselves would notice. But they were just that - minor. The CGI was respectfully done. What I mean by that is that I didn't want them using CGI for things that they COULD have done but copped out on - stunts primarily. All the CG was acceptable and I appreciated that.

KR2000 was a disgrace, the makers of this movie clearly understood the original more than KR2000's did, for that I thank them.
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Re: It wasn't perfect but I'm not sure I could be more pleased.

Post by Romulus9 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:57 pm

I've been around for a long, long time. LONG time. I just never actually joined the forum (I already spend hours on one message board every day... I don't know if another can do that too!). Granted, there were a few threads over the years that irritated me or made me want to jump in but I didn't... until now. Good to do so, of course.

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Re: It wasn't perfect but I'm not sure I could be more pleased.

Post by PHOENIXZERO » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:28 pm

I dunno if I would use Superman Returns as an example, because it was on the level of KR2000 to me of how disappointingly bad it was, maybe even worse since Bryan Singer and his writers knew absolutely nothing of Superman's character and couldn't bother to look to the source material to be respectful of the characters. I don't think I like what they've done with the continuity of Michael apparently knowing he had a kid out there and having them hidden away for their own safety or not, just making Michael his son without either of them knowing or even Michael finding out later, after the series would've ended would have made things so much simpler and a lot easier to accept.

Charles Graiman needs to be explained more and they really need to work on his involvement because they got way too cute with their "loophole" that they're claiming to have found when it's more or less a loophole they've created than an actual one.

Anyway, I'm just repeating what I've already said a dozen times already and I am getting tired of it because even with all the problems I had, I STILL enjoyed it for what it was and the attempt. I just think it could have used a bit more work, hopefully the series that's certain to be coming will be good and explain things better.
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Post by Romulus9 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:32 pm

I was mainly using Superman Returns as an example of how the movie was placed in the timeline, not as an example of quality. SR left much to be desired. I completely agree.

While I didn't care for how they had Michael knowing about a son and all that, at least the way it was explained was plausible whether we like it or not. I was more perturbed with the Graiman thing than anything.

Look, the answer to all this is clear. If they decide to go forward with a movie, they need to create a board of advisors, consisting of a few of us on this forum, to clear up any problems with respect to the classic series.

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Post by Kaine » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:42 pm

great review... it pretty much sums up my thought and feelings towards the new movie.
we all know this movie was rushed with the writers strike at hand and overall a very short period for production. i hope this goes to series and that with some more time for planning and a series budget this will get even better.

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Re: It wasn't perfect but I'm not sure I could be more pleased.

Post by SkavenUK » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:56 pm

Spot on review, I really do hope they turn this into a series.
Just to comment, there was a few people mentioning on the front page that they didn't think it was suitable for family viewing due to the 'apparent' sexual references made in the first 10-15 minutes. Now I heard - as I don't actually live in america but I have seen it - that apparently it was given a pg-12 rating? If this is the case then why are all these people getting all up in arms, specially as one person was complaining as he was sat down with his 8-year old to watch it. Am I the only one that finds it compleatly amusing to see people getting all stressed out over sexual references yet never once mentions about the
PRIME_BBCODE_SPOILER_SHOW PRIME_BBCODE_SPOILER:
shooting of his mother/blood
towards the end of program? :?

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Re: It wasn't perfect but I'm not sure I could be more pleased.

Post by Solid Snake » Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:16 pm

Wow... great review... where do I sign... I agree!!! The movie was really really really good... beats some of my DVD´s which I BOUGHT!!!
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Post by Kaine » Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:24 pm

SkavenUK wrote:Spot on review, I really do hope they turn this into a series.
Just to comment, there was a few people mentioning on the front page that they didn't think it was suitable for family viewing due to the 'apparent' sexual references made in the first 10-15 minutes. Now I heard - as I don't actually live in america but I have seen it - that apparently it was given a pg-12 rating? If this is the case then why are all these people getting all up in arms, specially as one person was complaining as he was sat down with his 8-year old to watch it. Am I the only one that finds it compleatly amusing to see people getting all stressed out over sexual references yet never once mentions about the
PRIME_BBCODE_SPOILER_SHOW PRIME_BBCODE_SPOILER:
shooting of his mother/blood
towards the end of program? :?
it's ridiulous, really.
there is no no actual sex scene, no naked people, not even a kiss in the first 20 minutes, still people complain about how sexual it was! ...ludicrous!

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