50 People in a cave can make a difference?! pathetic!

[davidknightrider]

having seen the crap quality youtube clip of the driving scene from episode 2, seeing both the actors sitting in a car with an awfully fake looking background is one of the worst cases of green screen cgi i have ever seen.

frankly, its worse than an amateur. I've seen better work from amateur's on youtube.

Seriously, that cgi background is pathetic. Its looks more fake than ryan seacrest saying he is straight.

Sorry people, but that type of crappy compositing and green screen work is one of the worst I have ever seen.

It makes the original KR series look like the Godfather in comparison.

And that fake turbo boost was horrendous.

Its sad that after 26 years, the turbo boost looks like a joke.

CGI has truly killed Knight Rider.

Long live the original series.

I feel sorry for people who will watch this series, and not realise that they will be suffering for years to come.

awful.

[davidknightrider]

seriously people.

having a large batcave with 50 people who can't even act to save their lives is a joke.

frankly, with the cheap tacky green screen being used almost every other scene, and having some terrible daytime soap actors as the cave mechanics, this is beyond a joke.

what happend to one man can make a difference?

what is it now? a james bond team in a batcave? with 50 people, who play basketball while not working?

frankly, i find it insulting as a Knight Rider fan to see this happening.

there should be at max 5 people working in a team, not a bloody 50 person company.

this series at the moment is making Knight Rider 2000 look like a masterpiece in comparison. At least in that they stayed true to the spirit of one person and the car, not a team of 50 people in a campy batcave.

Ben silverman is a cock. and he deserves to be fired.
He already ruined Bionic Woman, and now he is close to killing Knight Rider permanently.

Yes, all you smart asses, might say "oh, the original KR series was hardly a masterpeice".
Yes, it might not have been, but it was done with a good serious tone and proper story telling.

Not some half assed semi sequel which makes KITT into a transformer and having a voice duller than a turd.
Frankly, I don't blame Val Kilmer for doing the KITT voice, he is getting paid big bucks, so its not his fault he is being told to have KITT talk like a dull moron.

Anybody heard the real Val Kilmer, like in Real Genius? that type of Val Kilmer would be KITT, not this dull version controlled by Ben Silverman and NBC.

pathetic!

[Faithful Car KRO]

I feel sorry for people who will watch this series, and not realise that they will be suffering for years to come.

awful.

I feel sorry for us to, but mostly cause with have to deal with jerks like you.
The show is awesome, why do you gotta hate?

[davidknightrider]

I feel sorry for people who will watch this series, and not realise that they will be suffering for years to come.

awful.

I feel sorry for us to, but mostly cause with have to deal with jerks like you.
The show is awesome, why do you gotta hate?

if you find crappy fake looking green screen like that acceptable, then i don't feel sorry for you.
you deserve to enjoy this crapfest until it gets cancelled.

Even i could make a more realistic green screen composite than that.

its one of the worst ive ever seen.

[Faithful Car KRO]

Dude, why are you taking up time out of you life to say how much you hate this show?
Couldnt you time be better spent killing kittens and taking candy from babies?
If you dont like the show than why post all the scathing rants. The show is not going to change.
They're already like 8 episodes in.

[Faithful Car KRO]

I feel sorry for people who will watch this series, and not realise that they will be suffering for years to come.

awful.

I feel sorry for us to, but mostly cause with have to deal with jerks like you.
The show is awesome, why do you gotta hate?

if you find crappy fake looking green screen like that acceptable, then i don't feel sorry for you.
you deserve to enjoy this crapfest until it gets cancelled.

Even i could make a more realistic green screen composite than that.

its one of the worst ive ever seen.

You could make a more realistic green screen?
Then do it.
Or are you all talk....
damn haters.

[cloudkitt]

Seriously man, you could be making the best points in the world but why wouldn't you put them ALL IN ONE POST?! I'm not gonna read your "arguments" when they're spread all over the damn board so you can feel important.

[KnightCrusader99]

I am going to admit, the green screening during the race at the beginning was pretty bad. BUT, to make things fair, go watch the original series.... Junkyard Dog for example (I watched it the other night).... and tell me that the stunts that used the small models aren't worse. I dare you to tell me that the model of KITT with horrendous scanner light sinking in the acid is better than the CG from tonight's episode.

On the up side, the story was better and closer to a classic KR ep than the last one was. Right now, that is what we need to get the series renewed past its initial 13 episode run. Maybe then, the studio will get a bigger budget and they will ramp up the VFX. Right now, I am more interested in seeing what happened over the past 22 years, and the a possible few eps with the original duo.

[KNIGHTCRUE]

KNIGHT RIDER is getting better as it goes kitt and michael rule all the way as you could see kitt is getting his humor that rules and who bashes this show is a boring idiot

[Faithful Car KRO]

"frankly, i find it insulting as a Knight Rider fan to see this happening."


"pathetic!"

Point 1 -
I find you insulting as a knight rider fan.
the thing about the old show is, there was always a team waiting for KI2T when he went back to FLAG HQ.
They just never dove into the whole aspect of actually naming those people, giving them story, making them apart of the show... Something that should have been done since it seems like a multi-million-dollar car needs more than one person to work on it.... Thinking about it now that i type this..i'm losing even more respect for TOS, for not delving into all the things this series is.
We get to finally see the team that makes it all happen. We get to watch the AI grow and learn, something that the original should have done.

Wow, I'm liking this show alot more now that I think about it....

oh, and Point 2-
You are, for not trying to find connections to the old and seeing what could have been done.
A TRUE KR fan would be doing that....

[HOFFABE]

seriously knight rider had to be revived...they couldn't just replay the old ones...it just wouldn't cut it this day and age...either get on board or get off.

[KnightINSTINCT]

Hey, Davidknightrider, I'll back you on the green screen effects. They really are bad.

There is something they could do to fix the problem on the green screen, and it's adding atmosphere. Soften the lights, directing less at the hood. Do you see those stripes appearing more white during the green screen scenes? Watching KITT in actual daylight, it doesn't look like that. And the color scheme of what they are trying to go with on vibrant colors makes it incredibly difficult to dull down the fakeness of what we are seeing. Personally, I'm disgusted with the look of the package. Everything looks cartoony, just like the Speed Racer movie did.

For the rest of you on this thread: don't call this guy a hater because he speaks his opinion. I've been doing it since the premiere, because I believe that the survival of this show depends on fair and honest criticism. We all can bet that NBC producers, as well as GST, know that there were going to be things that we weren't going to like. Gary seemed to give off a hint during one of his Comic Con interviews that turbo boost was going to appear different than to what we are used to...I hope he wasn't just referencing to the being sucked into the hood scoop scene before the big jump, because that is sure going to get old!

[Michael Pajaro]

Ben silverman is a cock. and he deserves to be fired.

People are free to praise or criticize the show as much as they like. But if THIS is the way you have to express yourself, do it someplace else.

[Sky_Blue_Civic]

You all should be lucky we got Knight Rider back!This might be the last time the show will be revived,besides Glen Larson's Motion Picture!And I can understand about the CGI.What do you want them to do,trash an expensive car?Maybe KI3T sounds dull because he's learning?Plus the show is new,so they can't grant them large budgets,especially in the first season.You just can't bash a show just after only two episodes.

This is a forum where anyone can read our posts ,and people of all ages would be coming here,so I suggest if you're going to be here,please keep bad language out of your posts.

I'm sorry if I sound intimidating,but I feel I have to voice my opinion as well.

[cloudkitt]

Everything looks cartoony, just like the Speed Racer movie did.

For the record, I LOVED that the Speed Racer movie did that. I'm not sure how much you know about Speed Racer, but it WAS a cartoon!

[weeezl]

You all should be lucky we got Knight Rider back!This might be the last time the show will be revived,besides Glen Larson's Motion Picture!And I can understand about the CGI.What do you want them to do,trash an expensive car?Maybe KI3T sounds dull because he's learning?Plus the show is new,so they can't grant them large budgets,especially in the first season.You just can't bash a show just after only two episodes.

This is a forum where anyone can read our posts ,and people of all ages would be coming here,so I suggest if you're going to be here,please keep bad language out of your posts.

I'm sorry if I sound intimidating,but I feel I have to voice my opinion as well.

Well said Sky

My thoughts exactly!

[pheonix_knight]

Everyone brings up the point about it 'not being one man anymore'

But in TOS although MK was the 'lone crusader' in the field, there was always a large team working in the background which was fronted by Devon and Bonnie, check out JYD (which has already been referenced in this thread) for examples of this. TOS chose to focus just on 'heads of department' (for want of a better analogy)

Wilton Knight NEVER suggested that the 'one man' act all on his own. It was the one man who made the DIFFERENCE to the TEAM of people behind him...

[cloudkitt]

Yeah I never quite understand the complaints about the one man can make a difference thing. I understood the point the show was trying to make, but it was really one man with a super advanced, invincible car operating under and organization with nearly unlimited funds and an assumed army of workers can make a difference.

[kitt34]

having seen the crap quality youtube clip of the driving scene from episode 2, seeing both the actors sitting in a car with an awfully fake looking background is one of the worst cases of green screen cgi i have ever seen.

frankly, its worse than an amateur. I've seen better work from amateur's on youtube.

Seriously, that cgi background is pathetic. Its looks more fake than ryan seacrest saying he is straight.

Sorry people, but that type of crappy compositing and green screen work is one of the worst I have ever seen.

It makes the original KR series look like the Godfather in comparison.

And that fake turbo boost was horrendous.

Its sad that after 26 years, the turbo boost looks like a joke.

CGI has truly killed Knight Rider.

Long live the original series.

I feel sorry for people who will watch this series, and not realise that they will be suffering for years to come.

awful.

Your so right, it is horrible now.
I Truly hope this is the end of the knight rider tv franchise.

[weeezl]

Your so right, it is horrible now.
I Truly hope this is the end of the knight rider tv franchise.

You hope this is the end?

It appears that you have not even given it a chance.

[KNIGHTCRUE]

guys quite complaing and watch the show youll see whats coming up one of the coolest show airing i know its not like the orginal but it kicks ass when i heard that knight rider was coming back i jumped for joy GST thank you for bring it back

[Squirrel3D]

You know I'm gonna have to agree with davidknightrider on everything he said. I think it's odvoius now that half of you in this place are jonny-come-latelys based on your posts in this thread. You can't possibly tell me that the trash known as Knight Rider 2008 kicks ass. His comments about 50 people in a cave were dead on. Last time I checked, couldn't one man make a difference? One man and one car? Most the time it's not always tracer by himself. It's him and that dull un-hot girl he's with.

The CGI....wow. I remember clearly this past saturday NBC was showing two hours of Knight Rider 2008 (and I will always refer it as that). There was a scene where KITT was riding on subway rails really fast. As KITT came out of the tunnel, it stopped....no not stopped as in slowing down, but stopped JUST LIKE THAT!!! That was clearly more phony than anything I've ever seen in the orignal show. It's hard for anyone to suspend belief on that one...I'm sorry but it was a completely horrible CGI job.

Same can be said on the Turbo Boost. Heck it hardly looked like one and Mike Tracer wasn't even seen holding on tight to the steering wheel like Michael did to make it believable. This new one was anything but believable.

Another thing that completely makes KITT non-believable was that it could pull off a transformers. Was I watching knight rider, or Viper? I can name a few more...such as no molecular bonded shell.

So not only in Knight Rider 2008 the worse CGIed show ever, but it's completely insulting to the message that the orignal show established....One man can make a difference.

Bash me all you want, but I've seen both shows now and I can only tell what poor Glen Larson is thinking. I can't wait long enough for the knight rider movie to come out.