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Re: Reviews, reviews, reviews (spoilers)

Post by PHOENIXZERO » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:09 pm

Knight316 wrote:I just read this article about Ben Silverman...it doesn't bode well for us if KR is Ben's baby so to speak.

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/m ... man-quits/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is this the story that your chopped up link was supposed to be to?

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/m ... man-quits/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's almost a month old, I think his chance of survival depends on how the new shows perform. Heroes didn't have its best rating, especially for a big premiere but it still did very well in key demographics, especially with the competition it was up against.
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Re: Reviews, reviews, reviews (spoilers)

Post by Knight316 » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:27 pm

Ya sorry, that was the link. I did notice the date but I remembered hearing Hasselhoff mention it a couple weeks back as well on a radio interview. He didn't mention Ben but did mention Teri Weinberg by name and said that she was one of the poeple that didn't want him in the new series. I was just referring to Gary saying in the interview that this is basically Ben's show that he was the one that wanted to bring it back. If the ratings were low and he's the one calling the shots and he likes it, it's got a good chance of staying at least a little while but if he's not there it could be looked at as a failed Silverman project if it's not a monster ratings hit. I like the show from what i saw and want it to be on for as long as it can i'm just worried that it's all about ratings nowadays and if it doesn't get CSI type numbers it'll be looked at as a failure by NBC and get cancelled like so many other of my favorites.

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Re: Reviews, reviews, reviews (spoilers)

Post by JimmyPSHayes » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:50 pm

Here's a WHOLE diatribe:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38468" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
-But, if the fans and viewers like it, that's the important thing. I'm SO sick of the only "good" shows being on HBO or Showtime or whatever. I loved the first episode and will watch it again tonight, and I've been trying to spread the word about it. I guess I'm pretty much in the camp of this reviewer:

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Re: Reviews, reviews, reviews (spoilers)

Post by Faithful Car KRO » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:58 pm

http://syfyportal.com/news425401.html

It's not that good a review, but it's not bad...
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Post by Faithful Car KRO » Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:39 pm

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/knight- ... 23062.aspx

Atleast BuddyTV is the voice of reason on the inter-web...
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Re: Reviews, reviews, reviews (spoilers)

Post by calhoun24 » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:52 pm

We live in an age where Mad Men, Gray's Anatomy, Lost, Dexter, and other series rule the landscape, and most critics want shows like that all the time, spoiled by those shows. And when that doesn't happen, they try to destroy it, or at least try to by picking apart everything they can about it.

One way they can be silenced: watching the show week in and week out.

It's tiresome to see critics rip apart shows I support, while I can't even stomach most of the fare they watch.

After all the effort they put in, I just hope we have a real chance to prove them wrong.
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Re: Reviews, reviews, reviews (spoilers)

Post by KnightCrusader99 » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:44 pm

Read this crapstorm on Digg: http://digg.com/television/The_new_Knig ... ever_Video" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My coworker sent me this at work today, and I had to stop what I was doing to stick up for the show. (You may notice my comment was burried because they thought I was OBVIOUSLY from NBC since I tried to defend it.)

No wonder I don't go to that site anymore... Ugh.

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Post by bmmkwe » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:48 pm

Might I add that in the original 1980's series, the pilot was supposedly unsuccessful, and what did Hasselhoff say? I think he said that if it starts out bad, the show will be a great success. Does this sound familiar? The pilot to this new Knight Rider was horrible. Now after waiting for this new episode and watching it, I can tell it will be a great series. In my books, it will never be as great as the original because it has a special something to it.

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Re: Reviews, reviews, reviews (spoilers)

Post by calhoun24 » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:00 pm

KnightCrusader99 wrote:Read this crapstorm on Digg: http://digg.com/television/The_new_Knig ... ever_Video" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My coworker sent me this at work today, and I had to stop what I was doing to stick up for the show. (You may notice my comment was burried because they thought I was OBVIOUSLY from NBC since I tried to defend it.)

No wonder I don't go to that site anymore... Ugh.
Good for you. Keep watching, and tell others. Don't add fuel to the fire on threads like that. People like that are just looking for a fight.
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Re: Reviews, reviews, reviews (spoilers)

Post by tunerboy101 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:08 am

I seriously got to say that I enjoyed that episode. Don't flame me, but it's true. KI3T was far more friendly and he seamed to have plans of his own, which really reminds me of a book I read (The idea was that if robots programmed with the three basic robot rules were programmed to be so close to humans, could they kill?) anyways. The idea of Mike's loss of memory and his boss being the root of it was also intriguing. Overall I'd like to enjoy this new series, and I hope that they remain true to the origional.

I LOVE TURBO BOOST!

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Post by Forte316 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:25 am

tunerboy101 wrote:I seriously got to say that I enjoyed that episode. Don't flame me, but it's true. KI3T was far more friendly and he seamed to have plans of his own, which really reminds me of a book I read (The idea was that if robots programmed with the three basic robot rules were programmed to be so close to humans, could they kill?) anyways. The idea of Mike's loss of memory and his boss being the root of it was also intriguing. Overall I'd like to enjoy this new series, and I hope that they remain true to the origional.

I LOVE TURBO BOOST!
I have to agree, the ep was cool and the memory loss make a good series angle for future eps, the transformation scene were awesome as well, kind of don't like the white stripes on the hood of KI3T but that the way the car is so oh well and the turbo boost was awesome, i don't think turbo boost has ever been done when kitt was just parked and that was cool, umm is it me or does attack mode kind of looks like super pursuit mode from the later seasons of the orginal knight rider?
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Re: Reviews, reviews, reviews (spoilers)

Post by KR4Life » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:26 am

I LOVED THE SHOW!!! That's right, I said it! It had 'super-cheese' written all over it. Bad acting and (honestly) forgettable SFX. SO WHAT?!? You either like or you did not. That freaking simple! Aside from saying whether or not you liked it, there isn't a single reason why anyone's opinions (or my own, for that matter) should matter. I liked it, pure and simple.

I loved the way "Attack KITT" morphed and launched himself to the rescue with the 'Turbo Boost'. I liked how there is a team backing up Mike and KITT on their missions. Technicians and scientists and government agents, oh my! The back story of Mike's missing mermories, how Alex and Charles are in the know on it and how KITT is backing his boy up by keeping tabs on everything. That, and the Mustang they used for KITT is a SEXY beast. 2 things: I hope we get (AT LEAST) one season out of it and the 'Hoff' is on for more that 2 episodes.

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Re: Reviews, reviews, reviews (spoilers)

Post by Knight4life » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:11 am

http://www.metacritic.com/tv/shows/knightrider" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This show may get cancelled to be honest..........

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Re: Reviews, reviews, reviews (spoilers)

Post by goldbug » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:53 am

Knight4life wrote:http://www.metacritic.com/tv/shows/knightrider

This show may get cancelled to be honest..........
That's always a possibility with any new show. But what I'd love to see is any of those "critics" produce something better. It's easy to bash, but I hardly see one review there where they offer suggestions on how they would have written the show differently or how the show could have done better. To me, it's like critiquing food. If you taste a dish, and don't like it, the question becomes WHY? Did the cook not use enough seasonings? Was it overcooked? Undercooked? Just sayin "this tastes bad" is not a valid criticism IMO, it's just an opinion.

I do wonder however if the original KR was any better received by critics. Indeed, many shows on the air now that are successful are quite solidly bashed and thrive despite that.

KR's biggest hope is that people tune in and enjoy it for what it is: escapist fun involving a talking car and a guy trying to make a difference. KR isn't (and really shouldn't be) trying to be serious commentary or gritty drama (which seems like what some of these critics wanted it to be).
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Re: Reviews, reviews, reviews (spoilers)

Post by Kaine » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:26 am

i don't give a crap about reviews to be honest.
i have a mind of my own and don't need some 'wannabe movie experts' to tell me wether i should like a TV show or not!

and the new Knight Rider... i liked it!

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Post by Skav » Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:00 am

People shouldn't judge with the first episode. A lot of tv shows start out a bit rough around the edges and then eventually find it's own style. I think the same will happen here.

The first episode was action packed and of little substance to woo in the current generation teen crowd, we will start to see quality, I predict, within the next 3.

'Deadly Maneuvers' and 'Good Day At White Rock' (from the original series in season 1), while they had some good action scenes, they didn't have much substance did they?

Season 1 of TOS had a certain campness about it, more so than the later seasons, but never really found it's style until the episode 'No Big Thing' came along and that was the 8th episode.

So, give the new series a chance, it will grow and develop.

People may have a different opinion in about 3-5 wks.
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Re: Reviews, reviews, reviews (spoilers)

Post by neps » Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:30 am

Knight316 wrote:I just read this article about Ben Silverman...it doesn't bode well for us if KR is Ben's baby so to speak.

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/m ... man-quits/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That link is no longer available - perhaps it wasn't legit. It would be the first that I have heard of it.

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Re: Reviews, reviews, reviews (spoilers)

Post by Kaine » Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:15 am

here's the correct link:

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/m ... man-quits/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by sarfraz » Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:45 pm

http://adage.com/mediaworks/article?article_id=131256" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Another review along with one more thats abit more positive:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... html?cat=2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I suspect we'll see many more now that the show has official aired.

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THE REVIEWS ARE IN...

Post by scottab21 » Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:59 am

The original show in the 80's had a little something for everybody. Whether that be, action, heart, or just plain koolness factor. That's why the show had a nice four year run and is STILL popular to this day. So, with the premier of the new revamped series behind us, I am proud to say that, in my eyes, they have included a little bit of something for everybody as did the original. It's a very exciting show, with a great story, kool car, pretty ladies, hunk lead, and everything that made the TOS so relevant in it's time. So, here's my question to all KR fans out there, why all the hate towards this show? Are we living in such a cynical world now, that people can't just sit down on a week night and simply have fun and enjoy themselves for an hour? I guess we are, coz' here are the official reviews across America for this great continuation of an AMERICAN classic. >>>>>>>>>>


USA Today gives it one star (out of four) and says:

… There is much to despise in Knight Rider, a shockingly incompetent, barely coherent, ad-driven rip-off … Instead of just aiming the show at children, maybe NBC should let them write and perform it. They could hardly do worse.


The New York Times says:

… a staggering bore …


The Los Angeles Times says:

… Unlike the darkly reconceived "Battlestar Galactica" or the also darkly reconceived but ill-fated "Bionic Woman," and notwithstanding an ominously dark hole in Mike's memory, the remade "Knight Rider" is fundamentally of a piece with its predecessor. As drama and as spectacle, and with a remarkable lack of irony, it re-creates the cheesy sci-fi adventure from the 1980s. …


The Chicago Sun-Times says:

… The only thing that KITT (voiced by Val Kilmer, who delivers every line so flat, you'd swear someone hooked up the Hal 9000 from "2001: A Space Odyssey" to a morphine drip) can't do is write a better script. Like the Edsel, this "Knight Rider" remount is one heck of a lemon. … I'd be inclined to dismiss this as lighthearted children's fare, like David Hasselhoff's original "Knight Rider" from the '80s, but the violence, dialogue and skin shown on this version aren't exactly kid-friendly. Not even kids should have to suffer through this, though. Here's hoping KITT and crew get booted.


The Washington Post says:

… Zzzzzz. …


The San Francisco Chronicle says:

… heinously bad. It's the kind of bad that sells cheese or gets entertainment presidents fired - one or the other, or both. Of course, anyone who would watch "Knight Rider" anyway - given the show's history of low expectations and the NBC movie that reinvented it - probably knows what they're getting into and won't mind that it's spectacularly awful. For some people, taste is not a choice in life. … probably the dumbest show of the season …


The Salt Lake Tribune says:

… an insipid, banal and cheap-looking remake of the David Hasselhof action series that plays more like a 60-minute Ford commercial. … a car show strictly for the junk yard.


The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says:

… Above all, the show is just sloppy. A plane lands in Washington, D.C., and there are mountains surrounding the runway. The Knight Industries team learns two members may burn to death and they respond with big smiles, saying, "This just got interesting!" … the show gives us no reason to care, in part because Bruening's performance is often tentative and borderline wooden. …


The Boston Globe says:

… a vacuous vicious circle that is almost comically nonsensical - almost. The NBC show wants to be high-octane fun, something like Matt Damon's Jason Bourne movies with a Batmobile, but it's so poorly directed and listlessly acted … Everything - the characters, the action - seems stubbornly flat. The atmosphere of "Knight Rider" is certainly artificial, but it's not very intelligent.


The Associated Press says:

… lots of cartoony gunplay, explosions and turbocharged computer effects. Bad guys who go, "We can do this the easy way, or the very, very hard way." And a missing data "package" that (as we are repeatedly told) is "vital to national security." … the real inspiration is the product-placement deal struck with a major auto maker. "Knight Rider" isn't so much an action-adventure show as a high-octane commercial. …


Variety says:

The "Knight Rider" revival movie set the bar low in terms of expectations, and damned if the series premiere still doesn't go skidding under it. Frankly, this convoluted hour sent me scurrying to NBC's website looking for clarification about the plot, but -- whew, what a relief -- there really isn't much of one. … NBC got lucky once, but even with marginal competition it's hard to imagine there's much left in the tank for this as a series -- unless, perhaps, gas shoots back above $4 a gallon and people yearn for the cheap, vicarious thrill of watching somebody else waste fuel.


The Hollywood Reporter says:

… Of course, everything that made the original fun and unique has effectively been scrubbed away from this new edition that's all about high-tech gadgetry, speed and sex and only the tiniest shred about story and personality. The gambit surrounding KITT the talking car is no longer a gimmick so much as a device to attach a James Bond-ish edge to an hour devoid of soul. …


8 p.m. Wednesday. NBC.

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Re: Reviews, reviews, reviews (spoilers)

Post by weeezl » Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:34 am

Heres one from Film School Rejects......

An example of there extremely talented writing...... :roll:

"The vomiting that followed the closing credits could be because of the high alcohol content of the Sailor Jerry’s, or it could be a comment on the quality of this train wreck of a program. I’ll leave it for you to decide. I predict Knight Rider will last three more weeks before it is gone forever. And I think I’m being generous"

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/tv-for ... expect.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Im getting sick of these reviews :evil: in my opinion they miss the whole point of what Knight Rider really is, the critics panned the original and look at the following it has today...guess that says it all.

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Re: THE REVIEWS ARE IN...

Post by Dalton » Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:30 pm

They can all burn in hell as far as I'm concerned. I remember the original KR series getting panned in the press as well.

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Re: THE REVIEWS ARE IN...

Post by Lost Knight » Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:03 pm

scottab21 wrote:The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says:

… Above all, the show is just sloppy. A plane lands in Washington, D.C., and there are mountains surrounding the runway. The Knight Industries team learns two members may burn to death and they respond with big smiles, saying, "This just got interesting!" … the show gives us no reason to care, in part because Bruening's performance is often tentative and borderline wooden. …
This would be the review I agree with most. All of the reviews are rather harsh, but there shouldn't be any reason to be surprised. The core problems are not the computer effects (though we all criticized aspects of the car, etc., before the show premiered because that was all we had to go on). Although I think it's slightly a little too harsh on Justin. He and Deanna were the strongest in the premiere, I thought.
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Re: Reviews, reviews, reviews (spoilers)

Post by lucid hysteria » Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:22 pm

The atmosphere of "Knight Rider" is certainly artificial, but it's not very intelligent.
This one hit the nail on the head.

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Post by Knight4life » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:58 pm

# Despite the huge promotional push from NBC and the ratings success of the TV movie, "Knight Rider" debuted to disappointing ratings with only 7.3 million viewers. That's not so hot and could mean that this remake is in trouble.

http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/fall-tv-progre ... -start--17" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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