Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

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Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by knightnx » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:14 am

When Kitt 3k morphed into the other mustangs in the pilot it lost its scanner, shouldnt kitt 3k keep the scanner
this is kitts eyes and ears! he needs it right?

otherwise why keep it in any form?

even from a visual perspective ......bad guys dont recognise kitt but us fans can spot him straight away

i guess it cheaper for the producers as they dont have to modify stock cars and place scanners on them,
but how cool would it be, that way kitt keeps his identity no matter what form hes in.

plus it would be cool to see a nissan micra with a kitt scanner on LOL would make a funny episode

but seriously though its a minor detail but we love this show every detail counts

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by Gadjet » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:49 am

I agree!

When KITTs Scanna dissapered I was also thinking so how does he see without it?

Yes it should stay on the car when it morphs. Mabie he could move it, ie to the the bumper or in front of the rear veaw mirror but it should be visible at all times I think.

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by Kaine » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:57 am

i agree with both of you wholeheartedly! the scanner should stay regardless of what car KITT morphs into

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by knightnx » Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:07 am

P.S i didnt like the morph process that much either, much prefer the liquid metal look like in Terminator 2.
hopefully they address that for the series.

The Green grid that changed the car abit at a time, looked abit shabby
which is a shame as i was looking forward to that in the pilot

still prefer the old style super pursuit mode (it def had better sound effects), really do hope they manage to fix this

and hopefully ATTACK KIT actually attacks something :) if not -they should of named it COOL LOOKING KITT or RETREAT KITT

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by knightnx » Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:16 am

also what if the car changes, the scanner could move position but it stays the exact type.
imagine if kitt 3k turns into kitt 2k, old pontiac trans am but with the kitt 3k scanner
that could be interesting

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by weeezl » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:29 pm

knightnx wrote: imagine if kitt 3k turns into kitt 2k, old pontiac trans am but with the kitt 3k scanner
that could be interesting
That would be interesting and also good fun., I still think if they bought back the the old trans am it should come back as Karr, cause i dont think Williams Daniels will do Kitts voice again so id rather it was Karr than some silly impersonation.

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by knightnx » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:40 pm

it would be good to See Karr again, heres another far out idea
what if the rebuilt Karr also had the nano skin and he could morph?> :karr:

I hope Kitt 3k at next morph gets the KNIGHT license plate back!

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by cajunknight0153 » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:42 pm

ok guys, i know its fun to dream but lets face facts here, the new KITT can't morph into anything other than a new body style Mustang. and as far as the scanner, i like how he hides it because it camoflauges him so that the bad guys won't recognize him and as far as us knowing its him, of course we'll know its him because he's the only mustang that will really be focused on

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by pheonix_knight » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:45 pm

ford are premiering the glass roof'd Mustang and the convertible soon, so there are more possibilities for KI3T (and of course, more promotion opps for FoMoCo)

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by PHOENIXZERO » Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:41 pm

In this day and age and how far technology has progressed since the early to mid 80s KITT really shouldn't even need a scanner. His "eyes" could be in the headlights, back lights, break lights, where ever. By just following Moore's Law the new KITT should be enormously more powerful than the original. Of course I doubt that'd even get remotely addressed in a realistic fashion, well realistic in the KR universe anyway..
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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by Sky_Blue_Civic » Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:49 am

Why can't he have a choice of keeping it or hiding it?He only hides it when he really has to.
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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by knightnx » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:24 am

"by PHOENIXZERO on Jun 18, 2008 1:41 am

In this day and age and how far technology has progressed since the early to mid 80s KITT really shouldn't even need a scanner."

Pheonixzero is right, the 80s had a fascination for flashing LEDs, Electronic Red outs and such, todays standards eliminates all that technology now is all about simplicity look at the iPhone for example, they got it right in the cockpit with the one touch screen. therefore
a scanner could be in the head lights etc... but it would lack the drama.

however the scanner is an element of what we know and love in the show, for instance when Kitt 2k first met MK for the first time in the Flag mansion. It was pitch black and all you could see and hear was the scanner. MK wasnt sure what he was looking at. It gives the car a mysterious even menacing look (at night anyway)

even when the black river guys raid Graymens house, when you saw the scanner light up, you knew something was about to happen.

scanner def adds to the effects and atmosphere of the show its def needed just for the story telling

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by PHOENIXZERO » Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:46 am

I agree, it needs to stick around but when you want to disguise yourself you're not going to leave something so easily identifiable as that out as a beacon to announce "HERE I AM!" There's no reason why it couldn't work while hidden either.
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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by knightnx » Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:59 am

Very True, If they didnt include the scanner in disguise mode it wouldnt be the end of the world, depending on how you look at it, it works both ways

but secretly........ Please add the scanner
its def my personal preference.

The existing scanner could def use better sound effects though.

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by 2hararious » Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:40 am

i have to agree with knightnx that the scanner needs to be included. Albeit dated it is an elemental aspect of Kitts design and recognisable feature. Removing it would be like saying the hulk could no longer be green! :wink:

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by Sue » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:36 am

I agree with you pro scanner folks! I’m just gonna copy in my rant from an old thread.
I’ve been going on about that scanner thing for a while now but no one has really offered any other thoughts on the matter. I was more leaning towards the possibility that the scanner is still in there under the nano shell and perhaps it is capable of scanning through the shell to see. If it truly goes away how does he see? And if he can’t see how can he still drive? They would have to work around this problem when writing the script, “oh hold on Mike let me just morph back my scanner so I can check that out for you.”
- I don’t really see that idea working out.
Hopefully they will explain all this for us in an episode of the series. But personally I think his scanner should stay in place after he morphs. Now that more Shelbys with that hood are going to be on the road, perhaps there is more of a possibility of him changing color and still keeping the hood. It’s his heart and soul, you can’t just remove it. Besides think of the toy market, what, are you gonna do? Sell a plain white Mustang and try to convince people it's KITT? No you’re gonna want all the versions of KITT you sell to have the scanner.
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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by Jay » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:24 pm

To the sense of the scanner -
In the original series, it was always apparent that the anamorphic equalizer, for the more technical term, wasn't the only observation device the Knight 2000 was equipped with - it wasn't always on. It was, however, the one that delivered the most signal quality, and was mounted in the front to observe the area most important - in front of the car.
Same goes for the Knight 3000 - it undoubtebly has many, many other sensors. However, the scanner is there as the most accurate and precise piece, and with the new look, maybe we can call it the HD scanner since when it comes to visible light, the image quality must be vastly superior.
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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by PHOENIXZERO » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:12 pm

2hararious wrote:i have to agree with knightnx that the scanner needs to be included. Albeit dated it is an elemental aspect of Kitts design and recognisable feature. Removing it would be like saying the hulk could no longer be green! :wink:
Well, there is gray Hulk and red Hulk.... <_< >_>
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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by knightnx » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:54 am

LOL the grey hulk, wasnt he called mr fix it,
but ......i digress keep the scanner

still cant figure out why after KARR got shot in the scanner and collided with KITT,
KITT hadnt even a scratch on him and KARR was totalled?

i guess they ran out of ideas

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by JJSoCrazy » Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:12 pm

The scanner is the traditional trademark of KITT, it should be on no matter what and especially when he is scanning for something or in a security mode just like the original!

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by Victor Kros » Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:33 pm

knightnx wrote:LOL the grey hulk, wasnt he called mr fix it,
but ......i digress keep the scanner

still cant figure out why after KARR got shot in the scanner and collided with KITT,
KITT hadnt even a scratch on him and KARR was totalled?

i guess they ran out of ideas
- I believe it's been explained that long term exposure to the sea water caused KARR's components (including the MBS) to weaken, which made him far more fragile in comparison to KITT who was consistantly upgraded.

There is also my question of how the silver pain applied to KARR was able to remain unscathed, considering it would be above the MBS shell and not below it (since they couldn't reapply it to him) and would scuff and take damage. But eh...that's another case of "television magic".

I would not keep the scanner in a disguise mode...it would be a dead giveaway as PHOENIXZERO has pointed out.

Additionally when KITT was in disguise in the original series, his scanner was usually not present unless it was a circus/stunt show act which highlighted the existing car with decals/lights. During the more elaborate undercover ops, like in Custom KITT and Knight Sting, the car was completely transformered to hide his identity.

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by knightofthephoenix » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:55 pm

Am I the only one that's wondering why KITT needs to "morph" at all? :|

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by knightnx » Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:53 am

knightofthephoenix wrote:Am I the only one that's wondering why KITT needs to "morph" at all? :|
Thats true, The only time kitt went undercover in the old series, CUSTOM KITT (hes scanner was still present he was just ramped up a touch to enter a custom car competition as basic black Kitt 2k was abit stock)
in Knight sting he had to become a different car as to get inside the bad guys compound. but he had a shell over his body to represent the other car :dash:

other than that does he really need to morph / hide or is it a gimmick of the times. Kitt is the ultimate / industructable supercar he doesnt need to hide. He can out run anything on the road, use any technology. he can withstand most weapon impacts and in theory have an arsenal of his own..

same goes for James bond he blatantly has conversations even dinner with the enemy
he doesnt put on masks like in Mission Impossible.... Hes James bond

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by Sue » Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:35 am

victor kros wrote: I would not keep the scanner in a disguise mode...it would be a dead giveaway as PHOENIXZERO has pointed out.

Additionally when KITT was in disguise in the original series, his scanner was usually not present unless it was a circus/stunt show act which highlighted the existing car with decals/lights. During the more elaborate undercover ops, like in Custom KITT and Knight Sting, the car was completely transformered to hide his identity.

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Re: Should Kitt Keep Scanner after Morph

Post by goldbug » Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:09 am

knightofthephoenix wrote:Am I the only one that's wondering why KITT needs to "morph" at all? :|
I think the movie showed two scenarios where the morphing came in handy. While he could survive damage or attacks, it doesn't mean you want the collateral damage involved. On the highway, sure he could probably sustain gunfire, but what if they took out part of the road? He could go falling off the side of a mountain and Sarah could have been hurt. At the casino, hiding was the best option and it prevented a gunfight from breaking out that could have hurt innocents around them.

I can also imagine undercover scenarios where KITT would want to blend in better with the cars around him, making the morph a useful tool to have.

That said, I don't wan to see it used every episode. It should be one of those features that's only used sparingly. I'm sure we'll see it in the premiere episode, but then I think they should give it a rest for a few eps after that.
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